In skywalker's case, the tempted hand (give in to the dark side, luke) that must be cut off in order to lay claim to his human inheritance: authentic agency in the face of his father's.
Perhaps telemachus would have grown up to be a better man under the tutelage and guidance of his father however, his difficulties of growing up fatherless caused him to grow in stature, particularly after athena began to mentor him being without his father for his growing-up years creates problems as well as possibilities for telemachus. He is poseidon's son , and it was foretold to him odysseus would stab his eye who does poseidon pray to and what does he ask he prays to his father poseidon, and for him to have a long, terrible journey home. Ancient greek wisdom for today’s leadership crisis seeking news of his father, odysseus’s son visits two other communities, each ruled by a compassionate, benevolent king celebrities.
During his travels, telemachus grows as a man athena, disguised as mentor, guides and instructs him he learns how to behave among greek leaders nestor reinforces in the prince a respect for loyalty and devotion menelaus encourages him with news that odysseus may be alive and held captive by a goddess-nymph named calypso.
He say that penelope was in league w/ odysseus to kill them all + she plotted their deaths w/ odysseus & telemachus (this is completely untrue) (24) describe odysseus' meeting w/ his father, laertes. Of course he brings out the red carpet, right but this is athene in disguise for all telemachos knows, s/he's just some rando trying to get a free meal—and yet he still treats the stranger with respect and honor daddy issues telemachos also starts out ahead of the game by having odysseus for a father.